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Rod
 Rod
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Back yet again - playing with oboes to have a go at 'Gabriel's Oboe' and cannot find 'tremolo' even mentioned anywhere. I'm sure I'm just missing it, so can a kindly soul tell me where Yamaha have hidden it, please?

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 4:40 pm
 Phil
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There is a Tremolo and Rotary Effects section in the Insertion Effects. You can apply it from there.

 
Posted : 03/09/2016 4:51 pm
Rod
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Hello Phil - Pleased to hear it! Looked up 'Insertion Effects' in the Owner Manual. Nothing. A paragraph in the Reference Manual didn't help. On instinct, called up the 'Performance' screen for my Oboe, selected Part 1, and hit 'Edit' - Effect (onscreen) got me to a promising looking page, and pressed 'Category' thereon which produced a pop-in menu, selected 'Trem/Rtr' ... ah-ha! but then had to press 'Type' to select Tremolo from the pop-in menu. So now I have the desired effect specified. Just below that is a 'Preset' heading, and pressing that produced a drop-down menu of options, of which I selected 'Stereo Vibrato' as the most likely sounding one.

Then I'm stuck. There seems no way of assigning the effect to the keys, of setting the rate or depth, or of applying the effect anyway. Obviously I'm wrong, but on this exceedingly unfriendly instrument how am I supposed to know which buttons to press to do what? I seem to be forever in this predicament, and, unforgivably in my view, the Manuals offer no help whatsoever - or certainly none that is apparent. So may I yet again ask you to specify the tortuous route I must follow just to apply a little tremolo to my oboe, please? I'm sorry to keep on like this, but there is nowhere else to turn! I've been playing with it for 2 days,a and got nowhere.

Thank you ...

 
Posted : 05/09/2016 1:46 pm
 Phil
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To assign an insertion effect - select the part you wish to apply it to then press Edit. Choose Effect from the left hand side, make sure that in Routing A is on. Then underneath Routing press InsA, from there choose the type of effect you want and a Preset for it if you wish. You can also see on this page edit parameters for tremolo for AM and PM depth and LFO Speed.

Is it tremolo that you want? This isn't usually something associated with orchestral instruments. If you are talking about vibrato, there are performances that already have this built in - Oboe 1 AF1 and Oboe 2 - its actually built into the instrument sample itself as opposed to being applied as an effect. This might be a more straightforward way of achieving the sound you want.

 
Posted : 05/09/2016 2:36 pm
Rod
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Hello Phil - bless your heart and little cotton sicks! I've not got back to the Montage, but will asap to see where I went wrong. Yes to the Oboe 1 AF1 and Oboe 2, but I'm very taken with a Tyros sound called 'Eerie Oboe' that fits the piece well, so am trying to emulate it on the Montage. I find vibrato and tremolo closely related, but am gives a more wavery feel than pm. The oboe also highlights the shortcomings of my speakers, and I have to compensate for that too. Thanks again ...

 
Posted : 05/09/2016 3:58 pm
 Phil
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Hope you get sorted - incidentally the owners manual does contain this information. As I might have mentioned before, doing a search of the pdf of the manuals is much more useful than looking at an index. When I searched for Insertion Effect it took me directly to p34 which has more or less the same information that I gave above.

 
Posted : 05/09/2016 4:41 pm
Rod
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Hello Phil - I did try the pdf search, but of course I was searching for 'tremolo' and 'vibrato' and was told there were no matches. I didn't know then that I should have been searching for 'insertion effects' ... not knowing the jargon, see? However, the point of this Forum is to teach, which it does very well with such patient teachers ... I have now done the alterations to my oboe, and find the results very disappointing! The book promises 'dramatic' changes - but it's not so at all. Even at a maximum 127 on the am the variation is barely noticeable (Part 1 and Part 2), so I'm still experimenting. Called away again, so not sure what I've missed ... back later! Oh, I figured that to apply the changes it is only necessary to press 'Enter'. Too close to the elephant to see it ...

 
Posted : 06/09/2016 7:22 am
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