When it is completed. Yes. Sometime between now and Spring.

That's obvious. And rude. If you could just say, "I don't know", it would be better.

Robin

Bad_Mister is a great person but has no crystal ball 🙂

Michele wrote:

Robin

Bad_Mister is a great person but has no crystal ball 🙂

I just asked for a straight answer. Like I said, 'I don't know' would be just fine.
'When it's complete'. Is not a good a good answer.

When's dinner? "When it's done before next dinner."

Those kinds of answers, is an attack on peoples intelligence. Disrespectfull and rude.

I sure hope Bad-Mister is a great person. But he/she is very bad at showing it.

I hope we can download it soon

Robin wrote:

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Not rude. He's busy. Busy enlightening us, tirelessly. On a lot of products. _ And that's just one thing he does. He answered the question & moved on. There are a lot of questions happening right now.

dsetto wrote:

Robin wrote:

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Not rude. He's busy. Busy enlightening us, tirelessly. On a lot of products. _ And that's just one thing he does. He answered the question & moved on. There are a lot of questions happening right now.

That's your opinion.

Robin wrote:

dsetto wrote:

Robin wrote:

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Not rude. He's busy. Busy enlightening us, tirelessly. On a lot of products. _ And that's just one thing he does. He answered the question & moved on. There are a lot of questions happening right now.

That's your opinion.

Thats not an opinion, thats a fact...

Jules wrote:

Robin wrote:

dsetto wrote:

Robin wrote:

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Not rude. He's busy. Busy enlightening us, tirelessly. On a lot of products. _ And that's just one thing he does. He answered the question & moved on. There are a lot of questions happening right now.

That's your opinion.

Thats not an opinion, thats a fact...

Maybe more of an assumption. When you say things, it doesn't automatically mean it's a fact.

Once upon a time, when a younger, inexperienced person wanted to learn from someone who is an acknowledged master in their craft/and or field of expertise, they would approach that person with respect and with a measure of awe. Appropriately if during the course of instruction the student asked a question with a pretty obvious answer, they could expect a curt answer which served to point out the nature of their ignorance, and encourage them to think before they speak. Somehow along the way, in our age of instant internet gratification we've all become self-centered petulant spoiled children who pout whenever someone in product support doesn't offer to give us their first born child, and have lost our respect for people who stand head and shoulders above us in knowledge and skill.

If you're not getting the picture, let me spell it out for you. This is not a customer service forum, this is an area where we can ask really smart people very technical questions and learn a lot about some very sophisticated gear. For free!!! If you want to get sucked up to by customer service, then email/call Yamaha Customer Service.
But don't come on here, and badmouth the people who provide invaluable advice to a lot of grateful Yamaha users and expect that we won't defend them.

Maybe on some other product forums, they give out participation trophies to the person with the most inane questions, but on here it's about learning how to use our gear so we can make good music.

To Ben:

That was very well said. I totally agree with you. Bad Mister has been enormously helpful to me during the four years I just spent climbing the ferocious learning curve of the Motif XF. I know he'll be just as helpful when I start climbing the curve for the Montage.

😉

In my own defense, I like to provide as complete answers as I can, no matter the question (I do ignore those that bump up against the NDA - future products, etc.). I see that my answer was short (not rude) just short, (but accurate), and from the day/time stamp, at that very moment I was landing at JFK airport and had to power down my iPad to get off that plane and into a cab. After a long week at NAMM I was (finally) in home mode, right at that point!!! Next morning, er, the next afternoon, I answered, what to me, was a similar question with the details I would normally have applied, to your question. I don't always read the name of the poster, and assumed I completed my thought on the Reference Manual question.

We, too, anxiously await the Reference Manual! The longer they take the more of the final information will be in it.

Reference Manual

If you think we show a finished product at NAMM... that is not always the case. And certainly was not the case here. There is still work to do. And as is usually the case - there are already planned updates. As there were throughout the life-cycle with the Motif-series.

I was only providing feedback. It's a good thing to do. 🙂