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Electric Pianos - Chorusing effect when striking the same key multiple times with sustain pedal engaged

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 Jim
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Re the electric pianos...(maybe all the AWM engine components?)... I noticed playing the tine pianos in particular that if I have the sustain pedal down and I strike the same note additional times, you can hear a slight chorusing effect with the note...pretty sure its because the previous time that note was struck it is still being sustained and striking it a second, third or more times while the sustain pedal is down adds another instance of the same note and does not terminate the previous instance...is this the case? This, of course, is not what would happen with a real acoustic, tine or other piano. Otherwise I love the Rhodes sounds on the YC...

 
Posted : 22/06/2020 1:11 am
 Lex
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I believe this is a limitation of any sample-based synthesis, like AWM. The only way to really get around it is to abandon samples and go for physical modeling from the ground up. The Pianoteq software ($150) has some great physically modeled EPs. They even have a version that can run on a Raspberry Pi (ARM Linux), so you don't need to lug around a laptop to use it.

 
Posted : 23/06/2020 4:24 pm
david
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Sustain is suppose to hold the previous notes same as SSS but I wonder somewhere internally can the function be set to re-trigger with consecutive strikes depending on the way you want to replicate the instrument. Having it re-trigger negates the purpose of the sustain so it's selective sustain. Chorusing effect is cool too. Different doesn't necessarily mean better or worse. I'm not sure I could tell the difference.

 
Posted : 23/06/2020 5:35 pm
 Jim
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Other sample-based keyboard I have...a Casio PX 5s and a Nord Electro 4 do not do this. If you re-strike a sustained note it seems to terminate the previous instance. I noticed it on the YC playing the song “James” by Billy Joel. There are points where you sustain a chord and follow it with a scale. The notes in the chord jumped out in the scale with the chorusing and a little louder volume. That caused me to figure out why. You’re right though...not many people would notice. It’s a minor thing...was just asking the question to confirm this is the way the keyboard is designed. Hopefully Bad Mister or Blake can confirm. BTW a real Rhodes which I had for year reacts even differently. If you re-strike a sustained note it sometimes chokes it off. I’ve never heard a sampled or modeled version copy that result...and I’m glad. It bothered me on the real thing.

 
Posted : 23/06/2020 10:27 pm
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