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Looking for guidance regarding how to reprogram the leslie effect for organ performances from the modulation wheel to a footswitch. Presumably this is possible, but needs to be reprogrammed for each organ performance individually (as opposed to globally, which would be easier).

I can find where the leslie effect is assigned to the mod wheel, but can't quite figure out how to reassign the leslie effect to the foot switch.

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
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Bad Mister
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You can change the controller responsible to change the Rotary Speaker "speed control" by changing the "Source" on the Control Assign screen. Some controllers will work better for this than others. If you change the SOURCE you must consider how the controller applies the result, what else that controller is assigned to do at the same time, and whether or not your selection works for you.

The MW is the default because it most closely resembles the original switch that was retrofitted on the old B3 (which was a lever that flipped left to right). An important point about it was it was a switch that remained in place until you flipped it back.

If, for example, you select Aftertouch as the SOURCE, you will discover that it only works when you apply Aftertouch, and the second you don't maintain that Aftertouch it is "flipped" back to the stored state. This is fine if you maintain Aftertouch constantly.

Same would be true if you select a momentary Foot Switch, you will need to maintain your foot on the momentary switch (works like sustain) all the time you are in the " on" position, removing your foot returns the speed to the stored state.

What do you have the Foot Switch programmed for currently? If it is tasked globally to turn On/Off the ARPEGGIOS, for example, you might not want to additionally have it do Rotary Speaker speed. If you see my meaning. If you are using the Foot Switch to advance programs in your Live Set, it would be a poor candidate to flip the Rotary Speaker from Slow-to-Fast.

Foot Switch is programmed globally on the Montage, UTILITY > Setting > MIDI I/O
That said, if you do not have it assigned to a global function, then I guess you can set it within your Organ Performances, or you could set it globally to cc001 effectively making it a MW... but if you use a momentary switch recognize you will need to keep your foot on it throughout the alternate speed. (I realize later Leslie's came with a big ole foot switch and some prefer it, but at least you know what you're in for... I have not tried it with a clickable On/Off switch but would imagine that works better than a momentary).

I have not tried this myself, let us know...

Hope that helps.
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Bad Mister: Attempted to reprogram the footswitch to the mod wheel funtion (globally) per the above discussion, but need additional guidance. Found the utility screen to program the footswitch (utility > settings > MIDI IO). However, pressing the current footswitch (arpeggio) setting on that screen takes me to a numeric keypad page. I expected to be able to cycle through the footswitch options as indicated on page 170 of the reference manual:


Arpeggio sw
Ms sw (is this the mod wheel?)
Play/stop
Liveset +
Liveset -
Oct reset


So where can you cycle through the various footswitch options? I could only get to that numeric keypad.

Thank you.
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Bad Mister
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Touching the box brings up the keypad, try going to the page and use the CURSOR ARROWS to navigate. Highlight the FS Assign box... "Arp SW" - then use the Data Dial to view the options.
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At the global level

Yes, the Data Dial allows you to change inputs in the FS Assign box. Thanks for that information.

As I’m sure you know, there is a significantly wider range of variables that can be select via the Data Dial than indicated in the reference manual …

1. Modulation depth
5. Portamento time
6. Data entry MSB
7. Channel volume
10. Pan
11. Expression.
32. Bank select LSB
38. Data entry LSB
61. Hold1 (Damper)
65. Portamento on/off
67. Soft pedal
61. Filter resonance
72. Release time
73. Attack time
74. Brightness
75. Decay time
76. Vibrato rate
77. Vibrato depth
78. Vibrato delay
91. Reverb send level
93 Chorus send level
ARP SW
MS SW
Play / stop
Live set +
Live set –
Oct Reset

Selecting ‘Modulation depth’ enables the footswitch (in the Assignable Footswitch jack) to activate Leslie effects. The footswitch I am using is a KORG PS-1 pedal switch. It is a binary (off / on) switch. However, it has the effect (as you pointed out) of functioning as a momentary switch — albeit one that turns the Leslie effect on when the pedal is pressed, but not off when the pedal is released.

Two questions:
1. Is ‘Modulation depth’ the correct global setting for reprogramming the Leslie effect from the Mod Wheel to the footswitch?
2. Is there a Yamaha footswitch that would enable binary (off / on) functionality? The FC4 and FC5 are both momentary pedals.

At the performance level

Bad Mister: “You can change the controller responsible to change the Rotary Speaker "speed control" by changing the "Source" on the Control Assign screen.”

Can’t find the ‘Control Assign’ screen. Searching for ‘control assign’ in both the user and reference manuals doesn’t return anything.

The closest I can get from performance screen: motion control > overview > edit common control settings > control (left sub-menu) > control assign … however, I don’t see anything on that screen related to ‘Source.’ That screen is labeled Edit - Common/Audio, which I think I have attached.

Thank you.
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Bad Mister
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Two questions:
1. Is ‘Modulation depth’ the correct global setting for reprogramming the Leslie effect from the Mod Wheel to the footswitch?
2. Is there a Yamaha footswitch that would enable binary (off / on) functionality? The FC4 and FC5 are both momentary pedals.


1- By setting the FS to send MODULATION DEPTH, cc001, it, effectively, becomes a Modulation Wheel, and will send 0 at rest and 127 when engaged. For flipping the Rotary Speaker Speed switch, all values 0-63 send one setting, all values 64-127 sends the other. It is a switch either/or, on/off, slow/fast, fast/slow. If you make your FS = MW this will be global for the entire Keyboard.

An alternate method would be to set the FS globally to an unassigned number... For example, if I remember correctly, the default for the XF was cc088. Doing so will now allow you to select "FootSwitch" as the "SOURCE" within the individual PART of the PERFORMANCE in question. If, however, you set the FS globally to also do another function, then some chaos is possible... Setting it to advance Live Set globally (LiveSet+), for example, and then choosing "FootSwitch" as the Source within a Part, would make no logical sense. And may not provide you with a use-able (practical) result.

So you have a couple of options, but choose wisely.

Finding the right "CONTROL ASSIGN"
The reason you are not finding the correct "Control Assign" screen, is there is a Control Assign screen for each of the 16 Parts, as well as the upper Performance Common level of the architecture. The one you found is for the upper "COMMON/Audio" level of programming (see the top line of the screen for location of what you are editing)...
_ First, select the PART... either by moving the cursor highlight to the PART "Type/Name' box > then hit Edit,.. Or press the [EDIT] button > then press [PART SELECT 1/1] - [PART SELECT 8/8] to view Part 1-Part 8. (All sixteen Parts have Control Assign screens but only Parts 1-8 are under Keyboard Control simultaneously).

Each Part has its own CONTROL ASSIGN setup with its own 16 Destinations!
Below, after setting the global FOOTSWITCH = cc088 (an unassigned Control Change number), I've programmed the Rotary Speaker Speed Control to the FootSwitch within the PART. This will require you program each organ sound one-by-one.

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/FootSwitch.png

If you opt to make the FootSwitch = Modulation Depth (in UTILITY), obviously, it will affect all programs because this is global. Make sense?

2- Yamaha does not make a simple clickable Foot Switch - but any will work - particularly for those parameters that are a "switch", you may not find it useful in all applications, but a clickable FootSwitch for a clickable parameter usually will work. I happened to have one laying around from my old Echoplex (circa 1971) and it works fine for switching Rotary Speaker Speed Control!

Hope that helps.
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BM: Tracking everything from your last post. Yikes! Thanks for the detail (and testing).

Turns out the Korg PS-1 foot switch I have is momentary, not binary off/on as I thought. So I'm off to hunt for another foot switch. (Can you recommend one?)

1971 Echoplex? You are carbon-dating yourself.

Cheers.
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Select [UTILITY] / MIDI I/O / FS ASSIGN and change OFF to 1 with the Data Wheel.
Plug a latching pedal into [Assignable] socket and you have the Leslie switch slow/fast.
A few latchable switches on Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aag/main/ref=olp_merch_name_1?ie=UTF8&asin=B00F5BLH4W&isAmazonFulfilled=0&seller=A10B4BF707RAWZ
or
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Do not buy from ARMCO - I had a lot of trouble with them
The only drawback as far as I can see is that it is a global setting and therefore affects all performances not just organs so like Bad Mister says it should be programmed for each performance that requires it
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I now have all this working at the 'performance' level: I have successfully reprogrammed the leslie effect to work with a latch footswitch instead of the modulation wheel. Thank you for your assistance. I don't think I would have been able to get there on my own.

Just one final question: can I save the change setting to the preset performance? That would be my preference. I saved my 'user' settings to the USB, thinking that might save the changes at the system level. That didn't work, however.

It would be sub-optimal if it was necessary to save a new performance just for the footswitch change.

Cheers.
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Karl, Phil, Peter - I have enjoyed following this discussion with great interest. I have been attempting to assign the Rotary speed to the Super Knob, so just pressing my FC7 would bring in the fast Leslie. I haven't succeeded yet.

Any ideas how I might configure this, as it would be just plain elegant (and add in other parameter changes as I should see fit)?

Thanks in advance!
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Bad Mister
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Karl, Phil, Peter - I have enjoyed following this discussion with great interest. I have been attempting to assign the Rotary speed to the Super Knob, so just pressing my FC7 would bring in the fast Leslie. I haven't succeeded yet.

Any ideas how I might configure this, as it would be just plain elegant (and add in other parameter changes as I should see fit)?
It is always best to talk about a specific program, because the Controller Matrix is so massive on Montage, you will be inheriting parameters that require other explanations. One reason we put together the PROGRAMMING BASICS series of articles.

Assigning controllers is fairly straight ahead, but when it comes to taking something already programmed, where the original programmer uses a different controller - you will first need to learn what they've done before you can just add your function. No one put the Rotary Speaker speed on the Super Knob - by convention, the Speed Control defaults to the MW. Because the Super Knob is a macro Controller, you are bound to inherit lots of other things when you move the Super Knob.

Let's build a simple organ sound "from scratch", this way you can see (and hear) how these type of assignments would be made. The whole thing should take three minutes:

From the HOME screen:
Press [CATEGORY SEARCH]
Select "Init"
Select "INIT NORMAL (AWM2)"
Press [ENTER]

Press [EDIT]
Press [PART SELECT 1/1]
On the bottom of the screen select "1" (blue) to view Element 1 parameters
Touch "OSC/Tune"

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/OSCTune.png

Here you can touch the assigned Waveform to conduct a Waveform Search (shown above is the default Waveform 1, a piano) by touching that box you open the pop-in and can conduct your WAVEFORM SEARCH for an appropriate organ sound...
Touch Category = Organ > SubCategory = Tone Wheel
Find the Waveform "1st Four Draw" a single Waveform of the B3s first four drawbars...

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/WaveformSearch.png

Press [ENTER]
In the lower left corner of the screen Touch "Common" (blue) > "Effects" > "Routing" (or press the lower [COMMON] button on the right front panel).
Set the "Rotary Speaker" for Type in INSERT A

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/RotarySpkr.png

Touch the "INS A" in the second screen column to view its parameters.
Using the Cursor arrow highlight the default Speed Control "Slow"****

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/RotarySpkrSlw.png

When you move the cursor highlight over this parameter, because it is an assignable parameter, notice the [CONTROL ASSIGN] button is glowing...

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/ControlAssignbutton.png

Indicating that you can press it to make your Controller assignment. When you press [CONTROL ASSIGN] you get a screen indicating the next controller you touch will be assigned.

Turn "Assign Knob 1"
Automatically, the assignment is made. As you turn AssignKnob1 passed the 12 o'clock position, the Speed will flip from Slow to Fast.

Now all that remains is link Part 1's, AssignKnob1 to the Super Knob (upper level of editing).
Press the upper [COMMON] button to select the "Common/Audio" Editing level.
Touch "Control" > "Control Assign"

Touch the "+" to ADD a Source/Destination
Set it to "Part 1 Assign 1"
This links the Assign Knob 1 of Part 1 to the Super Knob.

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/Part1As1.png
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That was nicely described. The only hitch - speed control does NOT go from slow to fast no matter where I set the knob position.

I actually wanted to set this to Preset Performance All 9 Bars - save it with my initials, so whenever I found alternate drawbar/distortion/reverb settings, I'd already have the Leslie all set for any and all new performances. Can I accomplish this with this preset?

But more importantly, I can't get the speed to change except if I manually hit the FAST button on PART 1/COMMON/Speed Control. I'm not sure what step I've erred on...
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Bad Mister
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Please try it again, you'll know you missed it if you don't get it to work. Common mistake would be to ignore the instruction to use the CURSOR ARROWS to highlight the SPEED CONTROL parameter setting.

If you "touch" the box that says "SLOW", you change it to "FAST", this is NOT what you were instructed to do and therefore it will not work. If you don't like using the cursor arrows, then touch the box twice, the first time to change it to FAST and a second time to set it back to SLOW, which is what is required when applying a Positive RATIO. A positive RATIO (the default) takes Slow-to-Fast.

If you start with SPEED = Fast you must apply a negative RATIO to change it Fast-to-Slow... make sense? That's why you couldn't get it to work.

I cannot take you through an already made Performance until you can successfully get this INIT setup to work. It gets confusing undoing someone else's program especially when attempting to learn... Trust me.

Please take another three minutes and get this to work... Let me know.
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I will of course trust you and re-try it at lunch. I believe it's the final 2 steps I need to go over again.

(I'm guessing the Performance I was referring to would require me to do the same changes to each of the parts individually, if not additional changes. Yes, I must succeed with a one part performance first.) Thanks for your kind help and patience.
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I got it to work!! It turns out my error was turning the Super Knob past 12:00, NOT the Assign knob on the left... dummy me!

OK - now I sort of see how to do it. Now I would like to do this to All 9 Bars AND remove the Grit/distortion, which I'm working on now. I'd rather assign that on a performance by performance basis.

But I'm getting there - slowly! (if YOU play much organ, you may actually like controlling the Leslie this way versus having to take you hand off the keys during performance... just a thought). Thanks so much.
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Gary - Bad Mister's reply goes deeper than my current level of the system's understanding. But I wanted to reply to your question from my layman's perspective. Yes, you can assign the FC7 to replace the MW for the leslie effect at the part level (vs. assigning it globally--see the above discussion). The issue with doing that, as Bad Mister points out, is that the Super Knob / FC7 have been pre-programmed at a higher system (firmware) level for a much broader range of functions. The effect of this programming will be to combine functions, likely resulting in unintended consequences.

As an example, you can assign the rotary speaker (at the part level) to the volume footswitch. However, you will get both volume and rotary effect combined when depressing the footswitch.

This is the reason I wanted to assign the rotary speaker to the assignable foot switch--because the assignable footswitch has not been pre-programmed globally. You don't have any unintended consequences. As I indicated above, I now have this configured (with a little help from my friends) and it works perfectly. You do, however, need to save the change as a new performance. (I am saving new performances as a song title to distinguish from the original preset name.)

Certainly not as sophisticated as Bad Mister's solution above. But a shorter distance up the learning curve.

Cheers.
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Thanks for that Karl, and I certainly understand, as I use a simple footswitch with my Hammond SK1 to trigger fast Leslie... it's a default situation on that board with no programming required at all. What Phil helped me accomplish (and yes, his reply is deeper than ANYONE of our levels of understanding!) was of course on a way more complicated system, and assumed no other parameters were being 'beefed up' in the process. For my personal organ uses on the Montage, Leslie is all I wanted, no volume rises, etc.. (unlike other performances where I DO want multiple parameter changes). I'd do the footswitch solution as you have, but that darn FC7 is so smooth and sweet... hard to resist!! Plus - you can get in between Leslie speeds if you're careful, which can be sweeter than slow or fast by jockeying the pedal up and down subtley.

Thanks for chiming in and keep doing so... we'll all learn this beast faster the more we discuss it!!

Happy 4th to you.. and to you, Bad Mister!!!
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I'd do the footswitch solution as you have, but that darn FC7 is so smooth and sweet... hard to resist!! Plus - you can get in between Leslie speeds if you're careful, which can be sweeter than slow or fast by jockeying the pedal up and down subtley.
No, you do not. And this is very important to understand - YOU DO NOT get "in between Leslie speeds" - not at all. The parameter is LFO Speed Control and has two positions Slow and Fast. Period. Placing the Modw Wheel or Foot Controller some where in between is meaningless.

All values 0-63 = SLOW
All values 64-127 = FAST
When the curve is linear. So how does the ramping up and slowing down of the Rotary Speaker create the Doppler Effect?

You pick a particular speed setting for “Slow”
You pick a particular speed setting for “Fast”
You then pick a “Transition Time” setting that determines how quickly it changes from one speed to the other once the SWITCH is flipped.

You set these independently for the Rotar and the Horn. This is all to mimic the response of a belt driven system. Only when your Leslie was old and the belts worn out did your Leslie actually gradually speed up - loose belts would slip, somehow musicians find this very cool but like the origins of guitar distortion it started by accident.

A well tuned Leslie adjusted speed fairly immediately. It was older worn out belts that did the big sloppy transitions. But still the *switch* is all one way or the other, the "Transition Time" parameter is a separately programmable entity.

If you want to, as you say get at speeds "in between" you'd do better assigning the actual speed settings to your Foot controller... It wouldn't behave like a Leslie but you could manually control the speed, directly that way.

Trust me when I tell you all values 0-63 are one speed and all values 64-127 are the other. The thing you experience is the pre-programmed “Transition Time”.

Learn about the Rotary Speaker Effect parameters here: although written for the Motif XF the parameters and functions are the same: The Rotary Speaker Effect
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Yes, I mis-spoke... I KNOW there is only slow and fast. What I was referring to is more the ability to change the direction of the "ramp up" and "ramp down" on the fly, effectively cutting off max on or off PRIOR to ever reaching those positions, which is effective in certain situations. And which is easier and smoother to do with the foot pedal imho. Plus you still can do this without taking your hand off the keys.
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Yes, the TRANSITION TIME is the key to making what I referred to as "in between" Leslie speeds happen. I know there is only slow and fast. By selecting long transition times and manipulating the FC7 (or MW) you can jigger it faster, but turn around again prior to reaching max speed, thus attaining various "simulated" in between speeds, although transient. That was all I meant. It is a fun, highly varied use of the Leslie effect, though of course not what an original Leslie does, and not what everyone cares for, I agree. I offers me choices while playing. And isn't that the beauty of all this technology?

Thank you for reminding me of the original parameters of the true Leslie. I of course knew these, only wanted to vary and manipulate them at will, which the Montage can nicely do thanks to your valuable and highly appreciated programming instructions.

Can you please assist me in programming organ presets (eg. All 9 Drawbars) to do the same with the FC7, now that I have achieved success on an INIT organ sound? I would be most grateful.
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Can you please assist me in programming organ presets (eg. All 9 Drawbars) to do the same with the FC7, now that I have achieved success on an INIT organ sound? I would be most grateful.
I will turn this answer into an opportunity to show how you can analyze what the original programmer has done.

Specifically, in the two Part Performance "All 9 Bars!" you would be inheriting previous programming. Let's first isolate the two Parts so we can see their contribution.

Recall "All 9 Bars!"
Go to the HOME screen
Part 1 is 8 Elements
Part 2 is 6 Elements

Part 1 has the first 8 drawbars, 16', 5 1/3', 8', 4', 2 2/3', 2', 1 3/5', 1 1/3'
Part 2 has the 1', and others generating the percussion, grit and key noise.

Isolating the Parts can be done using the SOLO button.
Part 2 creates the percussion which only sounds when you "hit it and quit it", if you play legato the percussion is monophonic, like on the real thing.

To analyze what controllers are doing, you can look at the OVERVIEW screen, hold [SHIFT] + [PERFORMANCE (Home)]
Part 1 is using its AssignKnobs 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 - meaning 5 and 8 are completely free

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/Part1direct.png

Part 2 is using its AssignKnobs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/Part2direct.png

Close inspection will reveal the following assignment functions:
Part 1 Assign 1 – Rotary/Horn Balance
Part 1 Assign 2 – Element Level (unassigned)
Part 1 Assign 3 – Element Level (unassigned)
Part 1 Assign 4 – InsB DstDrv + InsB Output
Part 1 Assign 6 – Rev Send amount
Part 1 Assign 7 – Var Send amount (delays)

Part 2 Assign 1 – Rotary/Horn Balance
Part 2 Assign 2 – Element Level (3)
Part 2 Assign 3 – Element Level (4)
Part 2 Assign 4 – InsB DstDrv + InsB Output
Part 2 Assign 5 – Element Level (5)
Part 2 Assign 6 – Element Level (6)
Part 2 Assign 7 – Rev Send
Part 2 Assign 8 – Var Send (delays)

Mod Wheel – InsA SpdCtrl (currently the Modulation Wheel is responsible for the Speed Control of INSERT A 'the Rotary Speaker'
Assign Sw1 – E.LFO PMD, E.LFO AMD, Volume
Assign Sw2 – Volume (negative, unassigned)

You will also see that only the first four Assign Knobs are linked to the Super Knob for Part 1 and for Part 2:
https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/CommonAsgnKnbs.png

The Super Knob therefore is changing the balance between the High Horn and the Low Rotar for both PARTS. It is also responsible for manipulating the "Rotor" and "Rotor grit" and the output of the INSERT B Overdrive and Output. If you want to alter this - you now know where to go. For example, if you want to eliminate or reduce these you can by navigating to their Control Box.

This also means the other Knobs 5-8 are accessible only when you Select the PART for direct control and grab those knobs directly. They are not changed when you change the Super Knob (this is useful information because if you wish you can assign control of a parameter to an Assignable Knob directly or you can assign it to a knob that is under control of the Super Knob. The following two screens show exactly how PART 1's AsgnKnob 1, 2, 3 and 4 are linked to the Super know, and the second screen shot shows Page 2 which is PART 2's AsgnKnobs 1, 2, 3 and 4 linked to the Super Knob

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/Part1AsgnKnbs.png

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/Part2AsgnKnbs.png

Say you wish to add control of the INSERT A (Rotary Speaker) SPEED CONTROL to the SUPER KNOB.
For PART 1 Navigate to the PART 1 - "Mod/Control" > "Control Assign" screen
Set the DISPLAY FILTER to MOD WHEEL. You can do so by activating the AUTO SELECT (Green) and touching the Mod Wheel

you can see that the MW is assigned to INS A Speed Control.
In the Box labeled "SOURCE" change this with the DATA DIAL to read "AsgnKnob5"

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/AsgnKnb5.png

Finally to link this with the movement of the Super Knob go to the Common/Audio level, set the DISPLAY FILTER to Assign Knob 5 and set PART 1 ASSIGN 5

https://yamahasynth.com/images/Motif_XF/Miscellaneous/Customer/All9Bars/Part1AsgnKnb5.png

If you wish you can reassign the the Speed Control for PART 2 ... Hope that helps.
And I hope you understand now, why I just didn't say, here's how to add the Rotary Speaker Speed Control to the Super Knob. Without knowing what else changes you are running down the hallways with scissors in the dark. You really need to explore and understand what the original programmer was doing.
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