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  1. bhupendra
  3. Tuesday, 04 September 2018
Good morning,

I need some assistance with recording the motif XF arps onto cubase 7.

This is what I am currently doing:

1. I have my XF connected to my PC via firewire
2. I have the Motif Editor Vst configured within cubase
3. I have each of the firewire channels configured as separate send and return buses in cubase
4. I record performance mode into a song on the XF
5. Save the song and then take a backup onto a flash drive
6. Import the song into Cubase from the flash drive which gives me the midi tracks
7. Import the song into the Motif Editor VST editor to get the correct voices and settings for each of the track
8. Send the midi tracks back to the Motif and record the audio tracks which are returned via firewire.

I have no issues recording the songs I have created in this way from the XF into Cubase. What I now want to do is record additional arps from XF into the same project in Cubase. At present I have to follow the entire process above again to obtain the additional arps, but I am looking for a faster way to do this. I do not need the midi files, only the audio file from the arps.

So what I want to do is this:

1. Follow the process above to obtain the 4 track audio files from a recorded performance.
2. Select a new arp on the XF
3. Press a key to start the arp on the XF. The start of the arp should automatically trigger recording on Cubase so that the new recording is automatically aligned to the grid / bars.

Is it possible to do this?
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Bad Mister
Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
Thank you for your very clear explanation of what you are doing and have accomplished thus far.

You can add additional XF arpeggiated Parts to your 4 Audio Tracks.
You can add MIDI Tracks or Audio Tracks, it’s your choice.

Choose MIDI if you desire to edit the data or if you still think you might want to change your mind about the instrument sounds.
Choose Audio if you desire to go straight to committing to the generated data.

The setup will use Cubase’s ability to Count-in (you can setup a number of metronome clicks prior to going into record)... yes, you will start the Arpeggio by pressing a Key on the XF, but pressing a Key on the XF does not *start* recording on Cubase. Cubase will *start* when the Count-in is complete.

The role of you, as musician, does not change: it is still your responsibility to hit that very first Key exactly on the beat.

Arpeggio Phrases need to be started on the downbeat. The phrase will remain in synchronization because the Cubase MIDI clock is ensuring the XF follow exactly. Say you are slightly late (behind the beat) the entire Arp phrase will remain exactly that distance behind the beat. This is a good thing, because you can shift the entire recorded phrase forward or backward using the piano roll view. If you trigger the Arp an eighth note behind the beat, the entire phrase will be an eighth note behind the beat, precisely.

The Arp Sync Quantize setting is responsible for the placement of the trigger Key’s data... this will help align your trigger note data to the nearest Quantize value. If set to 240, then striking the trigger key will cause the Arp to change at the next nearest eighth note.

In the XF make sure the MIDI SYNC = Auto

As mentioned, you can output Arps as MIDI or as Audio.
Setting up to Output MIDI requires that a setting be made in the XF, so that the notes “sorted” by the Arpeggiator is sent to the MIDI Out, instead of the direct Keys that you play. You will need to setup differently for this to occur. Typically when recording MIDI you work with Local Control Off and you echo MIDI data back to the Tone Generator- however, when wishing to record the Output of the Arpeggiator, you set LOCAL CONTROL = On, and in the DAW you setup so that the MIDI signal “dead-end” on the Track (does NOT echo back to the synth during the record process) simply leave the Track’s MIDI OUT not assigned.
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