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  1. Chris
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  3. MONTAGE
  4. Monday, 23 January 2017
I am considering purchasing a Montage 6 but very disappointed to find that Yamaha have obviously fixed the selling price and therefore denying buyers the option to shop around, is this actually legal ?. As an example the Montage 6 is advertised everywhere at £2559.
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The sort answer is - unfortunately yes.
  1. more than a month ago
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Well i did payed for my Montage 8 [ 3.999.00 ] Euro. and now 3 months later i can get the same Montage 8 for [ 2.999.00 ] Euro . how can that be 1000.euro down within 3 months time . ??? :( :D :( ???...
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That doesn't sound right on the M8 price. Is it a "B" stock, floor model or used? You can't even get an M7 for that low. I saw the Tyros 5 prices go up after I pre-ordered mine. Go to ebay and find some at reduced cost hopefully in your area.
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Like anything else, initial release usually tracks retail fairly closely until competition releases something which leap-frogs ("bests";) a product and/or enough time has gone by that the supply chain has slowed enough that incentives need to be offered. Then, before the next big thing comes out from Yamaha as a flagship - Montage may go on a fire-sale if you can wait that long.

There's nothing, in my opinion, horrible about the general arc of pricing. If there were zero sales - Yamaha would change the pricing until some sales were made. Supply and demand - ....

If you simply cannot afford new - the second hand market is not a horrible place to go for keyboards. Even on day 1 you will find buyers' remorse units with significant savings. It's hard to think that there's been enough time to wreck a Montage and if found locally, you can check all the buttons dials, keys, etc.
  1. more than a month ago
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Where I also feel it is wrong is that the retailer is presumably unable to set his own price therefore denying them the opportunity of maybe selling more units at a lower profit margin. it is not that I am unable to afford to buy new but disagree with price fixing by manufacturers.
  1. more than a month ago
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Well, free market is always nice, but this is the same with almost all major synth / keyboard manufacturers.
You can shop around by getting either a Yamaha, or a Roland, or a Korg, etc.
  1. more than a month ago
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Chris wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Montage 6 but very disappointed to find that Yamaha have obviously fixed the selling price and therefore denying buyers the option to shop around, is this actually legal ?. As an example the Montage 6 is advertised everywhere at £2559.

My Montage 6 was £2069 in Sept'16 inc delivery
  1. more than a month ago
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Hi Peter

Was that ex-demo or new and if new may I ask where from.
  1. more than a month ago
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Hi Chris, brand new, only came in the day before .From AC Hamilton, Blackpool Rd, Preston. Price was £2069. I paid £100 deposit last March and the balance in Sept when it came in. Good outfit to deal with
Cheers
Peter
  1. more than a month ago
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Thanks Peter but you have just ruined my day :( as the current price on the AC Hamilton website is £2559 one hell of an increase to what you paid. Perhaps I need to give them a call and ask why the big difference from September to now (I suspect that they will blame Brexit :D )
  1. more than a month ago
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the price did go up significantly after Brexit. Imports from Japan became more expensive. For me Brexit was a good deal, I bought mine just in the week when the pound fell but the price hadn´t gone up yet. Saved 300 Euros by ordering it from gear4music. A week later price in pounds went up dramatically from one day to the next. Outside UK the prices stayed the same. So yes, it´s Brexit.
Get a return, they are always a couple of hundred off and have the same warranty.
  1. more than a month ago
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Guys,
Brexit is being used as an excuse for all things especially the UK economy improving, in this case you can blame the parasites who make their vast salaries by buying and selling money they don't own.
I'd consider selling mine for £2k as I don't think I'm tech enough to use its potential and the money would be better used towards the cost of my wife's care home fees
Cheers
Peter
PS. Chris if you're interested join the Facebook Montage group and pm me
  1. more than a month ago
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In the US, Yamaha dealers are obligated to advertise at a fixed price, however, often sell at a lower price; suspect it is the same in the UK?

For instance, if you "google" Tyros 5, all US dealers advertise it at exactly the same price ($5,499.99). However, I purchased my Tyros 5 from a Yamaha dealer (one year ago) at a significant discount - shipping included.

Once you've made the decision to buy and are not just a Looky-Loo, try this:

1. Look on the Yamaha website for certified Yamaha dealers that are not big internet dealers and are in small-mid sized markets (e.g. go to http://uk.yamaha.com/en/dealers/ and look for Warrington dealers; you'll get dealers in Wigan, Warrington, Manchester, Liverpool.)
2. Prioritize them (rank them).
3. Starting at the top, send an email making an offer (including shipping) you are prepared to close on immediately. Provide your cell phone number.
4. Wait a day for response.
5. If no, wash-rinse-repeat with the next dealer. If counter-offer, make quick decision - go for it, or pass.

Cheers.

P.S. If the product is a big ticket item and late in its life cycle (like the Tyros 5 was 1 year ago), start with making an aggressive starting offer, e.g. 33% off advertised retail. If product early in life cycle (like the Montage), try starting with 20% off. If no love, wait a month, then work the list with a 15% offer. Adjust your starting discount offer based on the product's price (e.g. if an 1800 advertised retail price, start with something like 20% off). Why does this strategy frequently (not always) work? In the U.S., the typical OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) pricing strategy is to sell to dealer within a range of discounts off retail, e.g. 50% off. Volume dealers generally get better discounts, and may want to move inventory to get the better purchase discount.

And, while you're working your list - as an earlier poster suggested, keep an eye out for "buyer remorse" used sales on daily basis.
  1. more than a month ago
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Hi Mike
Thanks for your reply and I must say that I like your approach. I am in no hurry to change my Motif to the Montage so it sounds like it could be fun trying to get the best deal by making them an offer rather than the other way around. Once again thanks for the advice.
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