You are referencing an article which, at least in the quoted section, does NOT deal with switching Performances.
I know. I merely used that as a jumping off point to discuss the various approaches to the objective discussed there, i.e. LH bass.
The fact that the Performance in the article only accomplishes 4 "sounds" is not a limitation of the approach, it's a limitation chosen in implementation.
The approach described there employed scenes. I mistakenly said the approach was limited to 4 sounds, when in fact I should have said 8. But the point was, I was looking for more than 8, so I was indeed running into a limitation of that particular approach.
You reference another article and ask if that method in a link can be used. ...The other method is sort-of-doable...but this method is, in my opinion, more cumbersome on Montage/MODX due to lack of random access buttons. What I mean is that one of the Motifator suggestions is to swap out a "part" by calling it up using the BANK (like PRE1, USR1) / GROUP (like A-H) / Number (like 1-16) buttons. Montage/MODX doesn't have these buttons.
Right, that's why I was wondering whether there might be a screen that provided similar functionality (i.e. you're in Edit mode, playing LH bass, and selecting from among 15-ish on-screen buttons to instantly select the RH sound as you play, something you could do with the physical buttons on the MOXF). That was my "option #2." And actually, I still don't know whether that's possible, but from what Bad Mister said, it sounds like there are better options anyway, in which case it's pretty much moot.
2) Say you have something more reasonable, a walking bass line...If you're OK with advancing to the NEXT Performance (meaning your "roadmap" of instruments in terms of sequence is pre-planned) then this method can work OK...I'm assuming you can deal with stopping playing the RH while changing Performances -- you're going to need that hand to accomplish the switch unless you use a footswitch. You probably should NOT use a footswitch - or decide to tap the footswitch with your hand
I will never "advance to the next performance" because there is no set order, I need random selection of my RH sounds from this palette of about 15. Yes, I would stop playing the RH before switching performances, and would use that hand to select the next sound. Though I might use a sustain pedal to hold the first RH sound while doing so. I will never be using a footswitch to change sounds.
If you do not have the sequence of RH instruments pre-planned, then switching between each of your Performances may be cumbersome to go to a certain Performance.
But I can have 16 user-defined Performances on the same screen, and just tap the one I want. That wouldn't be cumbersome at all.
if 15 RH PARTs is what you want...As a second, more mainstream, option I would use TWO Performances and drop the requirement for 15 - downsizing to 14 RH Parts. Where the 1st Performance has the same bass in PART1 and then different RH Parts in PART2-8 (all single PART instruments). Then I can go "one up" or "one down" in terms of Performance number and reach all 14 RH parts
That option would work for me. I'd rather have all 14 options on one screen than flip back and forth between two, but I could deal with the latter. That's a viable fallback approach if there is any issue with having the 16 different Performances I want all quickly/seamlessly selectable on the same Live Set page.
Alternatively, you could also copy the same 2 Performances over and over until you feel like you have enough to cover any tune you'd want to switch back and forth....you could copy these two Performances over and over, in sequence...If you had 100 of these, you could switch back and forth 50 times -- which is too many for any realistic tune.
These ideas are not relevant to my particular needs. I have no desire to ever use a footswitch to change sounds. And again, to be clear, this is not about being able to have tons of switches inside a single song, but rather, to handle all the switches for the entire gig.
It's important for you to understand that changing between Performances to change between #1 and #8 or #14 to #3 ("random" access)...is NOT the same as MOXF. MOXF had a way to tap 3 buttons to get random access. MODX is different - and understanding this different would be, IMO, key to determining how this option will align with your needs.
Again, I rarely changed Performances on my MOXF. Everything I've been talking about was done from within a single Performance. Though if I did have to get to another Performance, it was quick and easy, as you say. I don't need to have instant access to every Performance. From my understanding of Live Sets (including what you've said), it sounds like I could create a Live Set that has 16 LH bass combos that I could freely switch between, and one more Live Set that has up to 16 additional Performances I might customize for particular songs. That would probably take care of everything I need, at least for these gigs.
For single-gesture "random access" of 1 out of 16 RH parts - Live Set is about your only option.
That looks best, 16 LH bass+something combos I could select from a single screen. But the alternate methods you and Bad Mister discussed for doing similar things are good to know about too, thanks!
Regarding "fast enough" ...your RH part will have a slight delay. It's going to be about an 8th note. The delay is not long - but it will not allow you to play a 16th note line with one RH Performance, then switch to a different RH Performance and continue the line on the next 16th note.
That's fine. That delay was one of my concerns, but it sounds plenty fast enough. As discussed above, my RH will leave the keyboard to change the sound, and it sounds like I'm unlikely to be getting it back to the keys before the change has taken place anyway.
It may make sense to open up a topic on the MODX category to continue this discussion.
Yeah, maybe I didn't post this in the best place, I just followed the link from the article, for where to discuss the article. Though I guess almost everything discussed here apples equally to either board.
Anyway, thanks for all the input, there was some helpful detail in there!