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  4. Friday, 15 April 2016
Do the acoustic pianos in the Montage respond to soft pedal? I know that the Motif line did not but was just curious. Thanks!
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Bad Mister
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No, but like with the Motif XF, if a "soft" pedal is what you require, simply program your Assignable FS to reduce Element Level and/or lower the Cutoff frequency an appropriate amount.
  1. more than a month ago
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That's absolutely no good.....because there is just one pedal that should do that.
Because I preorder it I hope that will be fixed.
:(
  1. more than a month ago
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Just like BM said there is a workaround but the Motif and Montage Pianos do not respond to soft pedal normally. The Kronos and Kurzweil Forte pianos for example do respond to soft pedal naturally without programming.
  1. more than a month ago
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Hi, I'm surprised about the limited support for a soft pedal given that Yamaha make so much of the fact they manufacture some of the best pianos in the world. Seems like an oversight especially when, in my opinion, the piano sound on the Montage is the best I have heard on a digital instrument. In fact, it's the reason I keep coming back here even though the Kronos better suits my needs.
  1. more than a month ago
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Like BadMister said, there is a work around. However I agree it is a little odd that it isn't a standard feature on a flagship product like the Montage. That's also how felt about the CP4 and the lack of string resonance. The CP4 is first and foremost a "piano". Yamaha makes world class acoustic pianos and knows what they should sound like. However they continually give you what THEY say is "necessary". I have been using Yamaha products for nearly 25 years and really love their innovation, but lately I wish they would stop appropriating features for just certain product lines and just make a complete product.
  1. more than a month ago
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This is a professional synthesizer so you (have to) can program your own soft pedal.
Make your own timbre and softness to the piano sound so that it sounds best to you.
Use volume and filters of the elements to get the best u. c. sound.
  1. more than a month ago
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Kahlil wrote:

Like BadMister said, there is a work around. However I agree it is a little odd that it isn't a standard feature on a flagship product like the Montage. That's also how felt about the CP4 and the lack of string resonance. The CP4 is first and foremost a "piano". Yamaha makes world class acoustic pianos and knows what they should sound like. However they continually give you what THEY say is "necessary". I have been using Yamaha products for nearly 25 years and really love their innovation, but lately I wish they would stop appropriating features for just certain product lines and just make a complete product.

A complete product would mean the end of sales. Would a sentenced to death choose his tree to be hanged?
  1. more than a month ago
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Ah yes where is my head.......planned obsolescence. I'm not talking about game changing features folks, just obvious ones that other manufactures have included in their FLAGSHIP products. Kronos sales are doing well from what I've heard, not the end of Korg.....just saying.

Once again I'm not here to bash Yamaha because I have/had tons of their gear. Just posting ideas on this very helpful forum.
  1. more than a month ago
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Michele wrote:
A complete product would mean the end of sales. Would a sentenced to death choose his tree to be hanged?


Such nonsense....


Because of technological advancement and research the complete product of today will feel old and rusty tomorrow....

With all current high end developers witholding features from their high end instruments all they do is slowing the advancement of the hardware keyboard and synths down.... Spreading out new technollogy over severall instruments is wht Roland and Yamaha do these days...

Its a pitty, but its probably as it is....
  1. more than a month ago
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  3. # 9
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Kahlil wrote:

Ah yes where is my head.......planned obsolescence. I'm not talking about game changing features folks, just obvious ones that other manufactures have included in their FLAGSHIP products. Kronos sales are doing well from what I've heard, not the end of Korg.....just saying.

That's like saying that the MiniMoog was deliberately made monophonic & limited in scope, so that Moog could sell their extraordinary 1000 note polyphonic (that they still have under wraps) later.
Yamaha have enough competition to contend with, and are eager enough to release the best that they've got, and are confident enough that they'll come up with many more exciting developments, that they have NO desire to design in "planned obsolescence".

But back to the OP; as others have said, you can quickly allocate your own foot-switch functions, such as damper pedal. For even more thrills, allocate variable damper to the control pedal. That takes the Montage beyond mechanical preset pianos.

On this point, there's often a disparaging of synthesizer emulations of traditional instruments, such as piano, guitar, trumpet, etc. But what the critics never mention is "what piano? Which guitar? Whose trumpet?". It's as if I rubbish a Steinway as not sounding like a real piano, because my piano happens to be an 1887 Schwechten. And, yes, a Steinway sounds quite different, and must be a bogus imitation.

Let me propose: The best modern synths, such as Montage, now match or exceed the quality of the original instruments. In other words, the original pianos, guitars, and trumpets must now aspire to be as good, and as authentic as the Montage. I know that, even for piano sounds, given a choice between a Bosendorfer Grand or a Montage 8, I'd have NO hesitation in choosing the Montage!
  1. more than a month ago
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Sam wrote:

Kahlil wrote:

Ah yes where is my head.......planned obsolescence. I'm not talking about game changing features folks, just obvious ones that other manufactures have included in their FLAGSHIP products. Kronos sales are doing well from what I've heard, not the end of Korg.....just saying.

That's like saying that the MiniMoog was deliberately made monophonic & limited in scope, so that Moog could sell their extraordinary 1000 note polyphonic (that they still have under wraps) later.
Yamaha have enough competition to contend with, and are eager enough to release the best that they've got, and are confident enough that they'll come up with many more exciting developments, that they have NO desire to design in "planned obsolescence".

But back to the OP; as others have said, you can quickly allocate your own foot-switch functions, such as damper pedal. For even more thrills, allocate variable damper to the control pedal. That takes the Montage beyond mechanical preset pianos.

On this point, there's often a disparaging of synthesizer emulations of traditional instruments, such as piano, guitar, trumpet, etc. But what the critics never mention is "what piano? Which guitar? Whose trumpet?". It's as if I rubbish a Steinway as not sounding like a real piano, because my piano happens to be an 1887 Schwechten. And, yes, a Steinway sounds quite different, and must be a bogus imitation.

Let me propose: The best modern synths, such as Montage, now match or exceed the quality of the original instruments. In other words, the original pianos, guitars, and trumpets must now aspire to be as good, and as authentic as the Montage. I know that, even for piano sounds, given a choice between a Bosendorfer Grand or a Montage 8, I'd have NO hesitation in choosing the Montage!
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