I am sure there are other examples of the same class of product out there in the wild. The Steinberg UR242 is not as knob/connector feature rich - but provides 4 channel recording (matching this particular feature bullet of the UMC404HD). Steinberg UR44 offers more channels. That's sticking to the lower price class. There's high-end stuff of course. However, these seem to sacrifice knobs and elect to use a more menu-ed approach for adjusting channels.
I do see the point, however. Audio interfaces that are "mixers" or USB mixers that are better audio interfaces does seem to be an opportunity for growth.
There's quite some space for innovation here, Yamaha!Yamaha delved very deeply into the ‘keyboard player oriented home studio audio interface/digital mixer market’ — so deeply, I could write a book!
(AG03/AG06 — Right features, just slightly ahead of its time… good luck getting one… demand has been off-the-charts for the last year and a half).
Oh, but that was 18 years ago. Seriously, the thing I love the most about working at Yamaha is they are usually willing to be (way) out on the cutting edge before others even start thinking about things like doing really high-end recording in your bedroom.
I thought the request was for greater than 2 track simultaneous recording and less than 10. The AG06 as a 2-track USB digital output isn't fitting that request. And a 32ch mixer is well above the class of mixer requested.
Any offerings around 8 channel (or slightly fewer) simultaneous track recording that offer some level of mixing capabilities and other features mentioned as requests?
Don’t confuse the request with a discussion of what exists… and why. I just wanted to add perspective from the manufacturer side about where and possibly why you don’t see companies rushing to feed the 6-8 USB Bus output full mixer/audio interface “market”.
It also has 4 USB receives. The use case is a stereo pair coming from the DAW (for mixing live with DAW output) and one coming from your computer's main system sound output for youtube and all that kind of stuff. The difference in the two receives is the treatment of routing flexibility on the mixer.
Just because an audio interface is a small box, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have the equivalent or even more functionality than a physical mixing desk.
A small format mixer might have effects but with limited editing, while the small audio interface in the box might have deeply editable effect processing using a graphic interface.
Having an 8, 10 or 12 channel mixer when it is just you, might look cool… but beyond keeping lots of gear plugged in at once, there is little benefit.
I read your post, please actually read mine. You missed the barn Dragos. You are allowed to disagree (after all if it’s not right for you, disagree, my point is the market is bigger than just you… and other options exist. Probably for good reasons!!)
My point is I can show you an ergonomic mixer that is far less powerful than an audio interface box, and vice versa. My point is some folks money is an object, for other folks saving space is an object, for some folks money is not an object, and for still others saving space is not an object… so do your research.
Obvious if your home recording, the audio interface box was designed for this purpose… and there are some (mind you) that are simply awesome. (For wherever you want to use them) recording through those Steinberg interfaces with the Rupert Neve Transformers (wow)!
Small format Mixers from Yamaha
AG-line built for the home studio (3 ch, 6ch) podcasting is a focus
MG-line built for the gigging musician (6ch, 10ch, 12ch, 20ch… ) rough/tumble stage work.
Both offer USB recording to DAW, but the design concepts are quite different
Well, it does. First, [...]
Second, it won't work standalone. You need to power up the computer to hear yourself (or you need to start fiddling with cables)
Similar to how there are products that cross-over from the mixer side (like the Mackie) - there are audio interfaces that cross-over and offer "atypical" features vs. other competitive audio interface products.